The WoW Refugee's Guide: Final Fantasy XIV vs World of Warcraft

The WoW Refugee's Guide: Final Fantasy 14 vs WoW
I have an unholy amount of time played in both games, and I know a lot of WoW players are wondering how FFXIV compares, so I thought I'd make this video on the topic.
FFXIV Starter Guide:
Character Combat Voices:
00:00 - Intro
02:46 - Character Creation
08:47 - Story
15:03 - PvE
19:33 - PvP
21:15 - World
25:24 - Economy
30:22 - Community
33:45 - Conclusion
#ffxiv #WoW
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  1. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont年 前

    Disclaimer (& timecodes beneath): Whilst this video isn't sponsored by Square, between the time I finished making it and uploading it, Square did reach out to me and offer me a copy of Shadowbringers and gametime card for coverage etc. I declined the copy of Shadowbringers (I'll buy it myself) but I did accept the gametime card. And being perfectly honest, I was planning to cover Shadowbringers anyway as I'm enjoying making XIV videos right now. Timecodes: Character Creation @ <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="166">2:46</a> Story @ <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="527">8:47</a> PvE @ <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="903">15:03</a> PvP @ <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1173">19:33</a> World @ <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1275">21:15</a> Economy @ <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1524">25:24</a> Community @ <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1822">30:22</a> Conclusion @ <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2025">33:45</a>

  2. Fahad MV

    Fahad MV4 ヶ月 前

    @Kuhn same mistake here

  3. jotty

    jotty10 ヶ月 前

    Why would you decline the free? You must be joking 🙃

  4. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont11 ヶ月 前

    You are not the only one who has had issues like that, Kuhn. My friend started playing recently and we had the whole situation about steam being different to the PC non-steam version, for example. So he couldn't use the free codes that twitch were giving out. As for your case, that sucks - it means you'd be able to access the content now instead of waiting until ShB, but if you just started, you probably wouldn't have gotten to HW/SB that fast. In general, their account management side of things could do with some improvement.

  5. Jeremy Wessels

    Jeremy Wessels11 ヶ月 前

    @Kuhn 1 youre not being totally truthful because no matter where you purchase the game. Shadowbrings is plastered every where for pre-purchase. 2 im sure its not your first vidoe game purchase and you should understand that you should read up on what youre getting. if you go buy a car, do you just go in the dealership and just buy the first thing you see without research? test drive? etc.? so stop playing dumb. i would have done my research before i bought it. Shadowbringers has been all overt the place for almost a year now. so if i saw that it was in the 60$ bundle i would have done my due diligence to figure out how to get it with the full bundle. its not their responsibility to hold your hand throught even buying the game. and its not their responsibility to fix youre msitake. 3 you are not a content creator that brings coverage to them, free of charge. none of these streamers are paid by Square so thats why they offer them free game time, you are not in that category of player.

  6. Kuhn

    Kuhn11 ヶ月 前

    @Jeremy Wessels Yeah, you are right about that. There certainly is a difference. However, I was informed by FFXIV customer service team that under no circumstances do they give out time to play the game. NO CIRCUMSTANCES is the key phrase there. Now lets discuss the "mistake" that was made. I'm a brand new player to this game and MMO's in general. When I purchased the game I was offered two versions online. Option number 1 was a $20 base game and option number 2 was a $60 all inclusive version that had all expansions up until that point. Only after I had made my purchase and downloaded the game did I find out that upon purchasing the newest expansion, Shadowbringers, I would be receiving all other expansions up until that point. See, that is a very easy mistake for a brand new player to the game to make and I'm certain I am not the only one that has done so. I get to spend an extra $40 to have all the content in the game now when that cash could have gone to purchasing more play time. Does that really sound fair to you Jeremy? Is this the kind of new player experience that you believe is okay? Would you have been accepting of that if you were in my shoes?

  7. Ben Wil

    Ben Wilヶ月 前

    Yeah, something that really pissed off with WoW is the EU/USA different system. I started WoW at the end of Vanilla on USA servers, then BC came out and I bought it in a store. At home BS was useless to me because apparently I wasn't allowed to upgrade my USA WoW with the EU WoW expansion I bought in the store....... so had to restart after already having a maxed char (raiding with Americans turned out to be quite a challenge too lol)

  8. Silver Mont

    Silver Montヶ月 前

    Yeah it's really a shame

  9. Something Darkside

    Something Darksideヶ月 前

    Wow is just a raid simulator and faux-esport, ffxiv is an actual virtual world

  10. David Chan

    David Chanヶ月 前

    LOL i love the unnecessary bit on annoying voices

  11. Silver Mont

    Silver Montヶ月 前

    It's totally super important!

  12. H Koizumi

    H Koizumi2 ヶ月 前

    Lalafells are the best race. Everyone else are just jealous. 😏

  13. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont2 ヶ月 前

    I dunno, most lalafells are awful.

  14. Astro Tramp

    Astro Tramp2 ヶ月 前

    I find it interesting that you can offer no comparisons between the roleplaying and social aspects in these games. in FFXIV, the social aspect is BLATANT and in your face every where you go., in WOW, if you want to socialize, you really have to search hard for it. How could you not see the difference between the 2 games immediately?

  15. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont2 ヶ月 前

    I've not played FFXIV socially, whereas I tried roleplaying in WoW and being generally more active in the community. In XIV I just talk to my friends and treat it more like a single player game in some ways. Much as I love the game, I don't really enjoy a lot of the social sensibilities in it, for whatever reason.

  16. Tecumseh

    Tecumseh3 ヶ月 前

    WoW has no mechanics? WTF, good Job WoW bashing, from someone who has no clue to MMO's game plays.

  17. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont3 ヶ月 前

    Listen again to what I said and type it out verbatim

  18. ouroboro's Almighty conflagration mcburn

    ouroboro's Almighty conflagration mcburn4 ヶ月 前

    Also pve for me is just straight up better because mechanics and difficulty wise wows difficulty is pretty much confined to hardcore raiding and only the cutting edge of that get to experience some mechanics and even similar raiding tiers say the most difficult content in the game Savage vs mythic and if you look at the the amount and complexity of mechanics FFXIV feels better more busy to wow raids tend to have a certain set of mechanics per boss phase one of titan Eden version has more mechanics then some raid bosses in wow also I like that FFXIV tend to have multiple phases that throw different mechanics at you Pve from a raiding/difficulty perspective is in my eyes better

  19. ouroboro's Almighty conflagration mcburn

    ouroboro's Almighty conflagration mcburn4 ヶ月 前

    The worst part for me going trough the patch cycle of the end of arr till heavensward that was allot and I mean allot of content for me to catch up too dint help that in order to even get too that patch cycle I had to finish arr and boy are both castrum and the praetorium agonizingly slow time sinks story wise

  20. Pingouin King

    Pingouin King4 ヶ月 前

    <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="511">8:31</a> I'm loving it volume turned full way up lol

  21. Lahmacun Yiyici Beğ

    Lahmacun Yiyici Beğ4 ヶ月 前

    The points about boss mechanics and dungeon/raid musics about WoW is simply wrong. Mechanics are debatable but music? Come on, the example you showed is just a choir singing "epic music". People go "Woo, quality musiiiiic!" when they hear anything at all from a choir. WoW music has soul and masterfully constructed orchestration. Not just the environment music, but also instance music. Listen to some Black Temple, Karazhan, ICC, Ulduar music. It's not some random "epic choir music mashup". Each is a unique masterful composition.

  22. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont4 ヶ月 前

    Yeah I can't exactly give great examples of every good XIV song because of JPgo copyright stuff. Anyone who has played it and heard a good number of songs would agree though. I just used a short excerpt from the dungeon boss theme, because I also didn't want to spoil any of the unique tracks.

  23. Michael Leue

    Michael Leue4 ヶ月 前

    I know this is supposed to be about the differences between the two games, but it mostly comes across as saying they're basically the same. If you don't like one, you aren't likely to enjoy the other. FF might be an improvement on the formula in general, but it seems like it lacks any real innovation that sets it apart. As someone who left WoW behind because of the evolution of the gameplay loop into something I loathed, why would I subject myself to a game that's doing its best to imitate it?

  24. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont4 ヶ月 前

    At the end of the day, they are different flavours of ice cream, in my eyes. If you don't like ice cream, you won't like either of 'em. But there's probably a few people out there who liked WoW but got tired of it and will find XIV refreshing in its (albeit minor in a lot of ways) differences. Such as the emphasis on more story or solo content.

  25. Textfield

    Textfield5 ヶ月 前

    Played WoW a lot, and it was my favorite game. Currently playing FFXIV. Gotta say, community is the best I've seen. The gameplay and skill mechanics are also very fun. T Can't tell which is better at this point but FFXIV doesn't look as over-saturated as WoW right now. Roles have meanings, not every class you level can do Heal and Tank and DPS at the same time. You gotta level them separately. And it's PVE focused. All these tick the boxes for me. he only thing I miss in WoW is it's art direction and its visual style. But FFXIV's character customisation is also on another level. It's a very fashion-oriented game. I like it in an MMO game.

  26. Turedain

    Turedain5 ヶ月 前

    <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="511">8:31</a> this a sex thing?

  27. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont5 ヶ月 前


  28. Alexander Larsen

    Alexander Larsen6 ヶ月 前

    You do know you can turn down the noises other players and party members. I have my noise on 100, and party members and other players at 20

  29. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont6 ヶ月 前

    Yeah, but still that's a round about way of fixing it! They should not make characters have such obnoxious screeches in the first place

  30. Lukas Klees

    Lukas Klees6 ヶ月 前

    Your a hardcore glamour player. Lol

  31. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont6 ヶ月 前

    Glamour is my end game

  32. James Fitzgerald

    James Fitzgerald6 ヶ月 前

    I'm not a big MMO guy, but I played WoW for a week and was bored and frustrated as fuck for the entirety of my time with it, half the time I was just running around not knowing what the fuck was going on(and my god the fanbase is so cancerous and elitist), I only played it for a week because I really wanted to see what the hype was about and give it a chance, I should've just quit after like 2 days, then I played FF14 and had a much more enjoyable experience, I don't play it currently but I recommend FF14 a lot more if you like MMOs.

  33. tenjek

    tenjek7 ヶ月 前

    I left blizz after the whole fuckup with Blitzchung. This video is very welcome

  34. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont7 ヶ月 前

    Oh, yeah I heard about that whole situation.

  35. FoxyRaven-TV

    FoxyRaven-TV8 ヶ月 前

    PvE = Player vs Enemy? 😂😂😂😂😂 Its Player vs Environment 😉

  36. FaKeShAdOw

    FaKeShAdOw8 ヶ月 前

    a lot of us WoW people just quit ff14 because the community there is full of predatory e-girls, e-boys, lonely people who want e-relationships OVER actually fucking playing the game. If you're gonna try to actually do savage mode, it really hurts. It REALLY hurts. WoW never had this fuckin problem to this extent where it actually makes you question if most of the community are mentally ill and need professional help. At least people wanna play the actual game in WoW. Caring about Blizzard making us reskin mounts is by comparison such a fucking trivial issue. What hurts is when you want to do actual content and everyone else is busy catfishing each other and not gearing. This is across all three fucking FF14 datacenters for NA. There's drama on every single goddamn DC. In fact, the e-girls are so bad that there's literally refugee guilds that pop up sometimes just to create a fuckin safespace for the ones that girls have been abusing either emotionally, physically, or financially. And if you speak up about it, you're more likely to get banned due to reports, and their GMs are very bad at their jobs. You get banned just for being slightly joke-lewd in public, yet they don't take down mid 20s people who ERP with underage boys. People would also rather fucking go to their dumb roleplay whorehouses for lalafell ERP than get gear. Welcome to lonely weeb central. The last annoying sight I ever saw before I quit a few weeks ago was a fuckin viera girl leading around her e-boyfriend Au Ra who she had forbidden to talk to other girls, plus she made him wear stupid girl outfits to be more of a sissy. This shit is literally what they care about. Also, this was on PRIMAL, what was supposed to be the goddamn raiding Datacenter. When you play that game and try to get into a static raid group for savage, socializing becomes the real end-game. That's where all the cancer is for ff14. When you finally find people who are good at the game, they're even more likely to be twats who start drama too. There's HELLA fucking mid 20s shut-ins. If you play ff14 with your girlfriend and both of you want to get shit done? Oh man, there's like so much bullshit headed her way because of whiteknight orbiters and people who think relationships are all about showing public affection in-game. They actually will NOT respect your relationship IRL, just because they don't understand wtf a relationship actually is. It's so strange because people in WoW these days seem more varied now and actually got their shit together, like married, or jobs, or doing well in college. ff14 is only good right now if you're just going to stop at normal mode Eden. Past that, you better be pugging Savage mode Eden because trying to find an actual group is hell.

  37. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont8 ヶ月 前

    I'm not saying that stuff never happens, but man, where do you find those kinda people? This is why I never go into Limsa.

  38. CycloneFox

    CycloneFox8 ヶ月 前

    (In regards with cross platform play) "... Although not a very important one"? That's totally important. Almost all of my friends who play multiplayer games do it only on PC. I, on the other hand, don't really like playing on PC so much anymore. And while I normally prefer single player games with a lot of story, anyway, FF14 has some huge points including the heavy story-focus AND being able to play with my friends speaking for it.

  39. Antnj81

    Antnj818 ヶ月 前

    @<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="980">16:20</a> World of Warcraft may have started in 2004, but Final Fantasy XI - which is essentially the early version of Final Fantasy XIV - started on PS2 in 2002. Even if we were to go based on just Final Fantasy XIV, the game has been around since 2010.

  40. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont8 ヶ月 前

    XI and XIV 1.0 are very different though - hell, even 2.0 has quite a lot of big changes compared to the game today. Whilst there's still some 1.0 content floating around in a sense, XI is a completely different game, just another MMO.

  41. Sexius Manalive

    Sexius Manalive8 ヶ月 前

    <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="400">6:40</a> Michael Cera

  42. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont8 ヶ月 前


  43. Sonagi

    Sonagi9 ヶ月 前

    Wow sl8ghtly better pvp 😂😂😂😂😂 cmonbruh

  44. Raphael Merino

    Raphael Merino9 ヶ月 前

    It's sad that it's not about opinion anymore, WoW mechanics lore and whatever is left is so washed up, that you can't just say "I think this game is better because of this or that". FFXIV is better than WoW right now, you can't compare, the quality of the gameplay is absurd, one world feel's alive, the other is just do daily's and log off. Not even talking about how toxic the community in a game is while the other one has one of the kindest of any MMO ever. What I want to know is, what are they going to do with the classic server? Are they doing an OSRS pull where they will add content based on player votes, or they will just milk the old game, until people get bored of it and never update it.

  45. Raphael Merino

    Raphael Merino9 ヶ月 前

    Indeed, hope they do something. Otherwise it will burn really fast.

  46. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont9 ヶ月 前

    I think they have a plan to phase in content up to Naxx and then just leave it like that forever? I guess we'll find out. It's funny that classic WoW is more enjoyable than the live version right now though

  47. The Fool

    The Fool9 ヶ月 前

    I played WoW for the first time yesterday. But I have played quite a bit of ffxiv. And I will say that I prefer ffxiv over WoW by quite a bit.

  48. Rationalistic

    Rationalistic9 ヶ月 前

    WoW is a childs game, no skill invovled, all run by macros and sleezy players!


    HOODRICH9 ヶ月 前

    what's the highest mythic+ or raid difficulty you've done?

  50. Rationalistic

    Rationalistic9 ヶ月 前

    FFXIV pisses all over WoW

  51. Kenjo

    Kenjo9 ヶ月 前

    I see everyone suffers from Titan

  52. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont9 ヶ月 前


  53. EX0stasis

    EX0stasis9 ヶ月 前

    FfXIV feels more about the journey as much as it is about the destination (end game), whereas WoW doesn't feel fun unless you are max level.

  54. NovaNick

    NovaNick9 ヶ月 前

    What's that intro?

  55. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont9 ヶ月 前

    Oh, the song is called something like either Revelation or Flames of Truth I think? It plays during a spoiler heavy FMV in the first raid series in XIV

  56. NovaNick

    NovaNick9 ヶ月 前

    @Silver Mont the song in the start of the video I cant think of the name

  57. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont9 ヶ月 前

    I'm not sure how to answer that

  58. Jeff

    Jeff9 ヶ月 前

    I hate WoW, but from your what you said in your video, I think the type of story is much better in WoW, unfortunately, you are almost a nameless bystander, but I prefer that over being ssssPecial, because I'm the _mAin cHAracTeR_ . Look at that, I am not affected by the primal's mind control shenanigans, not by any merit, but becaise I am _SpEeCIaL_ , I am tHE mAiN cHarRactEr, niegh.

  59. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont9 ヶ月 前

    I get what you are saying, and in theory I would enjoy that too - but the problem with WoW is that they try and have it both ways. On the one hand, yes you are the commander with your own castle and doing all of this important stuff and EVERYONE comes to you with every problem, including saving the planet itself. But then a cutscene happens and you're not there because the important characters pop up to do stuff instead. I don't like that.

  60. Jeff

    Jeff9 ヶ月 前

    I really like Ida's development, it feels like she got a new lyse on life.

  61. HBY

    HBY9 ヶ月 前

    Play wow since 2004, there is literally nothing they can do that would be fresh to me. They've done everything they can on that engine. ff14 is new to me so maybe after a few years it'll be boring too and that is just the way things are. if WOW2 comes out then I'm all game but I odnt think there much they can do to really get me hook on that treadmill again.

  62. DragonKnight90001

    DragonKnight900019 ヶ月 前

    I’ve never played wow or ff14 never grew up with them even the ff games never played them until ff15 like before all the dlcs.....i have lower expectations now to be honest

  63. svenm sandity

    svenm sandity9 ヶ月 前

    Final fantasy xiv will kill wow classic before it even starts

  64. svenm sandity

    svenm sandity4 ヶ月 前

    @Yussop op thats just your opinion it stole over half the player base of the original making both games less populated then runescape 3

  65. Yussop op

    Yussop op4 ヶ月 前

    @svenm sandity hey classic is still doing incredibly well.

  66. svenm sandity

    svenm sandity9 ヶ月 前

    @Menrath Matei pure nostalgia that will be there for day one still not beating ffxiv peak that surpassed wow retails all time peak the community will split between the two and then kill itself off as overall guild wars 2 and phantasy star 2 will do nothing but help but give players lots of reasons to not return and nor will any of the hardcore fortnite players will come back or minecraft players because there to far gone and mmorpgs havent seen the peak players in any mmorpg because there all to busy in real games with more achievement impact and fun hell even black desert gives more of a game then wow retail little alone classic

  67. Menrath Matei

    Menrath Matei9 ヶ月 前

    Really doubt that.The amount of money blizzard gonna make from that release is enough for a whole new expansion if not even more.And the huuuge amount of people that waited for vanilla to come back to blizzards attention.But yeah i agree that although classic its gonna be a success at launch,over time it will die out bcuz the players will demand more from a much older game with limited content,and at that point FFXIV gonna catch the majority's attention.

  68. Love Machine

    Love Machine9 ヶ月 前

    the character part is fun i think its funny to be a small dark knight.( female au'ra dont want to play the potatoes) Tbh my character looks quite edgy so it fits

  69. Love Machine

    Love Machine9 ヶ月 前

    @Silver Mont i like how small au'ras are. they are also pretty/cute. So yeah for me the best race lol

  70. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont9 ヶ月 前

    Au Ra are almost lalafells, given how tiny they are

  71. Dusk194

    Dusk1949 ヶ月 前

    Awesome video, and a very through comparison. However, FF14 had me bored to tears by level 40 with the mandatory slog through its story. Personaly, I have yet to find any MMO with a compelling story, and prefer to ignore it like in WoW. The story is what made me stop playing. Everything else was awesome, but overshadowed by the story campaign

  72. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont9 ヶ月 前

    The story does start very slow in XIV, that is true. And whilst it gets really good later on, it's understandable if people don't want to get through all the very slow early stuff

  73. angel venkov

    angel venkov9 ヶ月 前

    i don`t understand why ppl like this game ? the effects are so ugly with those rainbow colors characters look like freaks combat is like slow motion WoW story is not voiced and the videos look like some 12 years old have made them using 1990 software

  74. MrZrzach

    MrZrzach10 ヶ月 前

    The dude in the thumb nail looks like Ian from Smosh.

  75. Eris Everblight

    Eris Everblight10 ヶ月 前

    I love both games but leaning more to final fantasy but I did just start it last week so I could be just be new game excitement :3

  76. Jimmy Chu

    Jimmy Chu10 ヶ月 前

    Hehe it's not, it gets way better! Hope you enjoy the game!

  77. Visor Overwatch

    Visor Overwatch10 ヶ月 前

    Never played WoW, been playing FFXIV since 2010 when it was first released. FFXIV is a "good" MMO at best. The only reason why i would recommend FFXIV is if you have poor self control and are suffering from Video Game Addiction and you need an MMO that will bore you so quick you want to log off lol. Yes FFXIV is great after a expansion or a patch, but after a week, it gets extremely boring and repetitive fast. And the Community? They're just as toxic as every other MMO lol. If you want to play a MMO where you will never get addicted to it, this is the game for you.

  78. Contractor 0211

    Contractor 021110 ヶ月 前

    I love that XIV's story progression is linear and direct... I played WoW for 5 years and was constantly wondering "where the fuck do I go now" to even continue the main story. You could call that "open world" or "non linear"... but everyone plays the same story so I'd call it convoluted.

  79. Montana Salvador

    Montana Salvador10 ヶ月 前

    The Crystal Data Center (Particularly, Mateus and Balmung servers) has a HUGE roleplaying community, and theres regularly public events.

  80. odnom

    odnom10 ヶ月 前

    I might get this tomorrow for the 30 days that comes with the starter edition before classic wow comes out. Who knows, maybe I'll get hooked!

  81. Songsong

    Songsong10 ヶ月 前

    plz let me know, what do you think

  82. PaulyGTv

    PaulyGTv10 ヶ月 前

    WoW is trash now....their last 5 DLC's have been garbage xD the whole game is just grinding...the "life skills" such as mining etc...are all useless as of now....literally useless, and extremely unfun. So if you ONLY want to grind pointlessly for hours on end just to get end game gear....and done....because that's all that game has to offer...then go play it lol. BUT FFXIV has the best crafting, life exp stuff period of any could literally enjoy your time playing FFXIV without even killing anything, just doing life skills and making your own house, becoming rich on the market. The game play in FFXIV is definitely more focused on "single player" type game play when you start off, and the story is great if you actually know how to read. You can skip it, but you'll definitely feel like you're missing out, people LOVE the story in this game. The combat is a bit slower too, when you start and it turns people off...but if you push a bit through it, you will start to find out why people also LOVE the combat, it gets faster and it becomes amazing. The FFXIV community is the farthest thing from toxic, but they can be toxic if you talk some major shit on the game, without even playing first. Otherwise they understand that the game isn't for some people......WOW on the other hand...has the most toxic community lol everyone is fighting for what they want and care less for what you need, doing dungeons is impossible when you start because people just sprint through and ignore the fact that you need to work together or you'll most likely die. FFXIV has more to offer, Wow's PVP isn't even good anymore, so if you planned on "switching" because FFXIV doesn't have the best'd be pointless lol.

  83. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont10 ヶ月 前

    Playing most MMOs (there are a few that were very PvP centric after all) for the PvP is like playing Pokemon for the high fidelity graphics.

  84. Beneficialitificulness

    Beneficialitificulness10 ヶ月 前

    Wait, I thought one's starting area was determined by neither race nor class but rather simply which of the 3 main city-states (Limsa Lominsa, Ul'dah and Gridania) you choose as your nation of allegiance. Pretty sure it is but correct me if I'm wrong.

  85. Beneficialitificulness

    Beneficialitificulness10 ヶ月 前

    @Silver Mont Hm. Well darn I stand corrected. Since it was 1.0 that I started my character, I suppose it's no surprise I forgot that little tidbid xD

  86. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont10 ヶ月 前

    Your starting city is determined by class - each of them has a guild in the corresponding city. Limsa has the Marauder and Arcanist guilds, Ul'Dah has the Pugilist, Tham and Gladiator guilds and Gridania is Archer, Lancer and Conjurer.

  87. Grim Begotten

    Grim Begotten10 ヶ月 前

    Most pluses in Story part in FF14 are actually minuses for me, as it is more like as single player game and not MMO.

  88. BigJ210

    BigJ21010 ヶ月 前

    It is a final fantasy game after all

  89. Solidarity93

    Solidarity9310 ヶ月 前

    So my favorite Dark Souls content maker also plays FFXIV. I also play this game.

  90. Fire Princess Reviews

    Fire Princess Reviews10 ヶ月 前

    I played WoW since Beta Vanilla. And while I enjoyed it thoroughly by the time I got to BfA I was just done. Nothing I did in the game felt important, just get to max level, switch character, repeat. The end game content was lacking and uninteresting. And I was tired of once again returning to Horse vs Alliance after spending (arguably) 3 expansions tensely working together. I don't think the story writers at Blizzard are necessarily bad, but when telling a HvA story they are considerably weaker at making it interesting. FFXIV's story makes me feel like I'm actively apart of the world, remeeting old NPCs they actually seem to remember you. Example: I recently unlocked the Dancer Job (it looked too fun) and when you meet with a familiar Lalafell to fund the troupe's tour, he comments on you trading your sword for dancing. This is just an example but it's not the only time a previously met side character remembers you, and I feel like that really ties the world together.

  91. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont10 ヶ月 前

    Yeah, I do like how characters and locations continue to remain relevant in XIV, I'm in a similar boat - although I wasn't playing in beta, I started playing WoW early in its life, and as much as XIV has changed, WoW's changes have been... far more drastic, and it feels like none of that original "world" is there. Feels like everyone who worked on it has been replaced, although I dunno if that's actually the case. The vision, either way, no longer feels coherent.

  92. Garry Arthur

    Garry Arthur10 ヶ月 前

    I must say I recently started final fantasy and the biggest difference between the two games is ff14 has a soul and wow does not anymore. Just a collection of systems designed to keep you playing but no real reason to just play for fun.

  93. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont10 ヶ月 前

    It does kinda feel that way, last time I played WoW (at BFA launch)

  94. Just Some Nerd

    Just Some Nerd10 ヶ月 前

    My biggest issue with FFXIV is the global cool down, and the massive amount of degenerate nerds. I have only been playing FFXIV for a couple years, and I have come across more weirdos doing role sex shit than I ever did in my over 10 years of playing WoW. It seems like a big portion of the FFXIV player base are all the weebs that make XxxLegolasxxX names, and want to have AOL chatroom style sex with other players. It's pretty gross.

  95. Just Some Nerd

    Just Some Nerd10 ヶ月 前

    @Silver Mont the goldshire stuff was mainly kept to the RP servers. Though I did run across it in my many years of playing. I have been playing FFXIV on a couple, and I have come across it on several occasions. Shit, just this newest patch I was doing the MSQ in the sunken church, in Il Meng, and there were two people getting freaky with the emote. Mainly I run across it in the gold saucer when I wait for events. It freaking creepy lol

  96. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont10 ヶ月 前

    You come across people doing that? I mean, I don't doubt it happens but I would've imagined most people do it in their houses or whatever, not like in WoW where you'd go to Goldshire and people would be freaking out.

  97. Max Koukos

    Max Koukos10 ヶ月 前

    Conniption = A fit of rage ; Interesting, the character's fit of rage translated to you.

  98. Man Dragon

    Man Dragon10 ヶ月 前

    also a word used by the crestfallen warrior in dark souls, a series this guy covers in depth.

  99. LeoWolfish

    LeoWolfish10 ヶ月 前

    I would rather have pc only graphics options while ps4 still has games being made for it. They can always add them to ps5 later which gives everyone more time to upgrade their pcs and stuff if needed.

  100. LeoWolfish

    LeoWolfish10 ヶ月 前

    @Silver Mont Agreed even though I am on ps4 at the moment I would rather that not hold the game back. For graphics or mechanics.

  101. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont10 ヶ月 前

    Yes, I don't really understand why they can't put in some PC exclusive options. It's not like it is "unfair" to console players as the option to get a PC is... well, an option. They could make the most out of the respective platforms. If nothing else, some higher resolution textures (instead of those really ugly PS2 textures some characters have on their clothes) would be nice. And they really need a better aliasing solution, or texture filtering, whatever it is that causes that awful shimmering.

  102. Senyaak -

    Senyaak -10 ヶ月 前

    PvE = player vs environment ......

  103. SurgeofGaming

    SurgeofGaming10 ヶ月 前

    For context for <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="720">12:00</a>, he’s talking about the Titan questline. Which, yes, it is very tedious. But if you take it into consideration the emotional roller coaster you go through before Titan, it does feel really nice when you finish it

  104. Neo Nomad

    Neo Nomad10 ヶ月 前

    Manderville episodes are what I play this game for!!!! jk, but really. So good

  105. Daniel Andersson

    Daniel Andersson10 ヶ月 前

    Looks like weeb stuff. not too sure about this. Quit wow about a year ago and want to play a mmorpg but seems like everything else is just "Anime" style :(

  106. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont10 ヶ月 前

    What do you mean by weeb stuff?

  107. plee227

    plee22710 ヶ月 前

    LOL biased much?? slightly better pvp?? how about leagues better pvp. FFXIV pvp is straight trash... literally lose like 80% of your skills, lol fuck that

  108. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont10 ヶ月 前

    Whereas WoW has messed up the balance in PvE or PvP by adjusting skills that are shared across both, which isn't really ideal, when you are screwing up game balance because of PvP, which is a distraction for most players. And no, I'm not biased, as mentioned in the video I played a huge amount of both games. I have opinions, not bias.

  109. DonHewgodooko

    DonHewgodooko10 ヶ月 前

    <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1060">17:40</a> That's what she said ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  110. brentstah

    brentstah10 ヶ月 前

    I'm loving ff14. I can really tell that SquareEnix made this, the rpg part of the mmorpg you can really feel WoW feels like it lost that element long ago

  111. Brynjar Gigja

    Brynjar Gigja10 ヶ月 前

    PVE = Player Vs Environment

  112. Felipe Pérez

    Felipe Pérez10 ヶ月 前

    Quick question: is this a good game for a solo player? I personally believe wow absolutely sucks as a solo player, especially because lfd and LFR are horrendous, and the story is meh to say the least. How do solo players fare in ffxiv?

  113. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont10 ヶ月 前

    You do just fine in solo. You'll need to use the duty finder for dungeons and stuff, but it's very painless, most of the time. There is a lot of solo content you can do, in general

  114. Technical Symphonic Black Death Metal

    Technical Symphonic Black Death Metal10 ヶ月 前

    Its a shame to see that such a large part of WoWs fanbase has turned on it and rightfully so. I was already tired of Blizzards shit since Mists of Pandoria and then Warlords of Draenor and by the time Legion dropped I had already moved on to FFXIV in anticipation for Heavensward been a Dark Knight main ever since.

  115. Technical Symphonic Black Death Metal

    Technical Symphonic Black Death Metal10 ヶ月 前

    @Cale Byrne I know right, everything from the experience to the community is just overall better.

  116. Cale Byrne

    Cale Byrne10 ヶ月 前

    Totally agree. I lost interest during Cataclysm and Mists of Pandaria. Wish I knew about Final Fantasy XIV ages ago! I’ve only just started playing in the last 3 weeks and loving it.

  117. alante gonzalez

    alante gonzalez10 ヶ月 前

    Duno if it was memtioned but if yu wamt to change yur highlander nin to something more suitable yu dnt hav to start over there are character remake potion (fantasia) on the cash shop

  118. Manh Nguyen

    Manh Nguyen10 ヶ月 前

    PC cross play with PS4 is not a theory. It's a fact. I'm on PS4 mainly, where as most of my guild/FC is on PC, and I play with them in every aspect of the game seamlessly.

  119. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont10 ヶ月 前

    I meant more in terms of voice chat, you might have issues with that on different platforms, depending on your setup

  120. Six1Eye

    Six1Eye10 ヶ月 前

    Left WoW for ff14 and I dnt regret it at all.

  121. Snarky_shark Gaming

    Snarky_shark Gaming10 ヶ月 前

    Honestly, the character creation part sounded like a sad lesbian orgy 😭😂😂🌈 But well said.

  122. Cmoon2

    Cmoon210 ヶ月 前

    I just getting into FF14 but for the most part is fine but i absolutely hate the races in this game tbh they all look like they came out of a Korean pop band.

  123. Beneficialitificulness

    Beneficialitificulness10 ヶ月 前

    @Silver Mont I always wished they'd let you play as a Gobbie xD

  124. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont10 ヶ月 前

    Yeah that's true, I do think WoW had better races to choose from. I always wished they let you play as actual skeleton people too, like an undead without any flesh.

  125. Cmoon2

    Cmoon210 ヶ月 前

    @Silver MontYeah but one thing that Wow has no matter in what state the game is that you can play as a mean looking monster or a decaying corpse i'd wish more games would let you do that.

  126. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont10 ヶ月 前

    That's why you play highlander, the best race

  127. GenericName007

    GenericName00710 ヶ月 前

    FF14 is very hard to get into I don't know why so many people like it. Just got it yesterday and the game is boring AF. I know people say it opens up later but why would I want to suffer through 50 levels b/c maybe it gets good after that? I'm only level 11 but I've been wanting to quit since level 4. How many quests to kill insignificant forest creatures can a guy do.

  128. brandon haist

    brandon haist10 ヶ月 前

    Let me explain something to you wow players. Combat is slower than wow, but it's also more tactful than wow's combat. While casting a spell, you have a choice, stand in the telegraphed aoe and try to finish casting your spell, or cancel your spell and avoid the aoe. If you decide to stay in the aoe to finish casting, if your cast speed isn't quick enough you might have your spell interrupted. If you avoid the aoe you run the risk of not being able to out dps the mob because you're forced into using skills with a faster cast time. Tactful combat vs fast paced combat. Wow is purely tab target. For the most part there are no telegraphed skills in wow for you to avoid, because the spells always lock onto you. In ffxiv all classes can cast spells while moving, though those skills are instant cast abilities. Any skill with a cast time aren't able to be used while moving. What is more interesting to you, standing still and pressing buttons quickly and seeing your 2004 graphic abilities shoot out 1 after the other in quick succession? OR - Standing still pressing buttons slower, seeing your carefully timed 2013 graphic abilities hit an entire group of enemies while also being careful making sure you dodge any aoe's thrown at you? Tanking in ffxiv you need to be aware of multiple tank buster abilities from many different bosses, as well as how many enemies you can pull in a dungeon before running the risk of wiping the whole party. As a healer you need to learn to manage your mana usage because certain skills apply shields while others burst heal or heal over time, healing in ffxiv actually takes a brain, same with tanking, and same with dpsing. You don't simply stand still and spam skills, it's more so about positioning and learning to weave your global cooldown skills with skills that aren't on the global cooldown. Yes you read that right, while some skills are on a global cooldown, there are multiple skills per class in ffxiv that are not on the global cooldown. What this means is that you would initiate a fight or start healing by using a skill on the global cooldown, and while the global cooldown is in effect, use an ability that isn't on the global cooldown in order to fill the space left by the global cooldown, speeding up combat and allowing for more fluid gameplay. So please, instead of saying ffxiv's combat is slow, play the game till level 35 or so and then make a statement. The first 30 levels of gameplay you are somewhat stuck with starter level shit tier skills for each class, but once you level to 30 you undergo a sort of job advancement which upgrades your class into a new class called a job. These jobs add really strong abilities as well as some off global cooldown skills which make combat speed up significantly. You get a new skill every 2-5 levels after level 30, and the difficulty of the game starts to increase at level 50 when you unlock hard mode and extreme mode dungeons. Different difficulty dungeons aren't just a different difficulty either, the entire dungeons changes, new monsters, new bosses, the only thing that stays the same in the higher difficulty dungeons is the look of the actual dungeon. For instance Haukke manor is a haunted house, on normal difficulty and on hard or extreme difficulty, however the route you explore the haunted house changes, the rooms inside look different and all the monsters you fight are also different. A large portion of boss fights in ffxiv also have actual mechanics behind them. They're able to do this because of the so called "slow paced combat". There's a boss in Amdapor Keep hard mode which looks like a clown. It has 3 different mechanics - 1) it swings it's scyth rooting a player in an aoe. To stop this player from getting 1 shot you need to free them from the root which is a blob of goo by killing the blob, before this aoe activates. 2) The boss spawns a few adds, and then starts channeling an instant kill aoe. This aoe keeps getting bigger and bigger before covering the whole map and instantly wiping the party. You need to kill those adds before this aoe goes off. When the boss gets lower hp this ability is paired with the blob shit so you are rooted while also supposed to kill the mobs to stop the aoe from getting bigger. Again this is ONLY possible because of how slow paced the combat is. The thing is though, it doesn't feel slow paced to you when you're playing it. Yes you aren't using skills as often as you would be in world of warcraft, but you'll be moving a shit ton more. You're going to be avoiding aoes as well as dealing with boss mechanics and you're intelligence will be tested. FFXIV is a good game, and the combat is fun, you just need to realize that any mmorpg at the beginning of the game is slow, however after getting farther in ffxiv, in my opinion combat is more enjoyable and rewarding in ffxiv than it is in wow. Hopefully by me explaining to you guys in what way combat is different to wows combat, even if it is slower in terms of skill usage, by me providing you guys with an example, you'll realize that slower combat isn't synonymous with bad combat. FFXIV has a slower paced combat system which allows for it's gameplay to become way more varied and interesting than other mmorpgs. I highly recommend ffxiv to people who are leaving wow. The combat might be slower, but the mechanics you deal with the whole game make up for the slower combat by providing you the player with more options and a more tactful experience.

  129. Lord Thighwind

    Lord Thighwind10 ヶ月 前

    What's also a big difference to me is I have never heard a FF14 player complain about a patch drop and then be greeted with the comment: What did you expect, it's a patch. FF14 players know what to expect. Small hot fixes, and a big patch every 3 or so months with a few new dungeons, a new trial, story content, a new raid tier, a new gear tier, and more to keep you busy for a good long while.

  130. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont10 ヶ月 前

    Yeah, having a relatively consistent schedule for content is a great idea for an MMO.

  131. Terry Monks

    Terry Monks11 ヶ月 前

    Reason 1: FF14 doesn't suck.

  132. Cmoon2

    Cmoon210 ヶ月 前

    Idk dude i got 2 charathers to 35 and hated every second of it.

  133. Avenging Demon

    Avenging Demon11 ヶ月 前

    Final Fantasy 14 has no right click report + auto ban when the certain level has been reached so, FINAL FANTASY 14.

  134. Avenging Demon

    Avenging Demon11 ヶ月 前

    @Silver Mont Check the right click report. People can right click on your name and type report. No GM will look into it, because Activision is cheap piece of shits. An automatic system will be check when a certain numbers has been reached and then you are banned for a day. People will NEVER use that, proomise!

  135. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont11 ヶ月 前


  136. Flower Prince Jay

    Flower Prince Jay11 ヶ月 前

    What the actual fuck is going on in the video itself? What quest line is that? It looks like actual madness

  137. Flower Prince Jay

    Flower Prince Jay10 ヶ月 前

    @Silver Mont well I know what I'm doing when I hit 80

  138. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont11 ヶ月 前

    That's probably the Namazu stuff. It gets pretty bizarre.

  139. Something Darkside

    Something Darkside11 ヶ月 前

    APM (actions per minute) of FFXIV is a lot higher than it is in WoW, 2.5 second GCD is only for your combos...which you only have 1-2 of and that's 3 or 6 buttons, the rest of your combat abilities are off the GCD and you have to weave them in between your 123 combos. It isn't shitty like WoW where all of your abilities are on GCD.

  140. Silver Mont

    Silver Mont11 ヶ月 前

    Yeah, at higher levels, things certainly become faster than in WoW. I always thought that gcd argument was a silly one. We don't judge a game by it's tutorial alone after all

  141. Wild Wyvern

    Wild Wyvern11 ヶ月 前

    You had me at your voice and the music. Subbed.

  142. Zergia

    Zergia11 ヶ月 前

    Beeing better than retail wow takes NOTHING, but classic wow is right around the courner so there is no time to start with ff14

  143. Big Blue Frontend

    Big Blue Frontend11 ヶ月 前

    "The sound's a lot better." *plays some horribly shitty music* Okay dude.

  144. Panther Man

    Panther Man11 ヶ月 前

    Ffxiv story is pretty good and surprisingly dark.... I tried wow and quit in a week. but that was more than a decade ago.